Thanks soccergal the Brookes were for sure too narrow, but the ASICs and Saucony ones seemed to have plenty of width, in fact I thought that was the problem originally, thought they were too wide/big. I will look at Merrells, and maybe some other lighter types. The ASICs are trail running shoes, but I liked them better than any others in sportsdirect.
My current ‘boots’ are actually smaller than the ASICs, I’d say they have less toe room, and a very thick sole.
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