• I love the forgotten tales of awesome women and my favorite are all the really old ones, I have a soft spot for women who became pirates too like Ching Shih and Gráinne Mhaol, while hugely important in their own right maybe can’t be said to have changed the whole world? Change the world is a huge ask……

    One of my favorites who surely does deserve the ‘world changing’ title is Shajar al-Durr.

    Shajar started life as a slave somewhere around 1220 and was purchased by a man who would one day become Sultan. But unfortunately just as King Louis IX of France had assembled a crusader army to invade, the Sultan up and died. Inconvenient or what! Shajar then decided the best course of action was to pretend the Sultan was still alive issuing decrees under his name. She disposed of the Sul…[Read more]

  • I would say Eglantyne Jebb and Cicely Saunders changed the world.

  • Anita Roddick. Both by showing my generation that women could build a big business from scratch and for being the first retailer to put it onto every high street that the earth mattered. She left every penny to charity when she died, as well.

  • Queen Victoria?

  • Margaret Thatcher (not in a good way!)

    Anyone who was a suffragette

    Marie Curie

    Florence Nighingale

    Marie Pasteur

  • Name the women you think have changed the world!

  • Football caused the problem (well alcohol really) but football is sorting the problem. Millwall has raised over £5k to help pay for the ambulance. If the insurance pays out then the ambulance service keep the money as a donation regardless. Millwall are/were one of the most violent supporters mob in the country. Opposing fans have to get there via train and train only and walk through a protective cage to get into the ground. They aren’t as bad as they used to be though. Then when you had the guy running around stabbing people at London Bridge it was a Millwall supporter who said not in my town and took him on resulting in numerous injuries to himself but he protected a whole load more people from harm.

    Sport and alcohol bring out the worst in everyone.

  • I think that it’s incredibly sad that these few morons are spoiling things for the majority but I also believe that these aren’t incidents isolated to football. Unfortunately this kind of thing happens every weekend across British towns and it is being highlighted more because of the World Cup which just gives these clueless yobs an excuse.

    They sicken me because this should be something for the nation to enjoy. Many of the young men on the England Team have worked extremely hard to perfect their talent. They are not kids that have had everything handed to them on a plate and I think it’s great for some children to see them and think that they could be the next big thing. Anyone can be a footballer, no matter what your race, religion or background and surely in a world where…[Read more]

  • Fi replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 9 months, 2 weeks ago

    Perhaps football brings out the worst in a very, very small minority, but most people seem to be able to watch and enjoy it without doing any damage to anyone. Millions of people watched the match on Saturday (official BBC figures show almost 20 million viewers, but obviously that doesn’t account for those who had viewing parties or went to pubs/ big screens to watch it. The real figure is likely much higher), so to simply say “football brings out the worst in people” is a huge generalization and completely untrue. I hate the fact people are focusing on the actions of a few stupid individuals. I watched the match with a group of friends from work and there were four small children in the group. A good time was had by all and the worst damage done was a few crisps dropped on the…[Read more]

  • I read on FB that they actually damaged the car so badly they wrote it off. What is wrong with people, the NHS are struggling with resources enough, now a car that could potentially save someones life is gone. I hope they get fined!

    We actually also had an interesting debate at work, a domestic abuse charity has said they dread these sorts of competitions as statistics show there is always a rise in domestic violence at these times.

  • Sammy replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 9 months, 2 weeks ago

    I do hope these England ‘fans’ are sent to jail. This will give their idiot mates another opportunity to chant, ‘It’s Coming Home’ in a few months time.

  • If it’s tribalism brought about by football, then isn’t if fair to say that ‘football culture’ is essentially to blame?

    Very interesting question. Not being a footie sort of person, I had no idea until I researched it just now that for years football hooliganism has been known as the “English Disease”. How mortifying.

    But no, I’m not sure it’s either specifically English or related to football. In 12th-century France, for example, (as well as England), the tournaments held by the ruling aristocracy were organized riots involving thousands of men spread over many miles of countryside. Hundreds died or were injured and the surrounding area was trashed during the event by these state-sponsored hooligans. As well as being regarded as vital training for warfare it was considered a…[Read more]

  • If it’s tribalism brought about by football, then isn’t if fair to say that ‘football culture’ is essentially to blame?

  • football brings out the absolute worst in people

    More a sad indictment of the herd mentality of crowds. If people weren’t so sheep-like, en masse, then 90% of that crowd would have acted on their natural inclination and shouted those idiots down from the vehicle.

  • tigg replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 9 months, 2 weeks ago

    It’s not the football, it’s the tribalism. Football (or any pack culture) gives halfwits anonymity, with a crowd to hide in, and it gives them an excuse to indulge in things they’d never dream of doing alone.

  • Just send them the bill for the damaged vehicle.

    For some people, football brings out the best for others football brings out the absolute worst in people.

  • cat replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 9 months, 2 weeks ago

    Nice, Sounds like your son has a good creative concept of justice. My personal idea would be to include in their punishment a few night shifts with an ambulance crew picking up drunks around christmas time to show them really how hard it is for the NHS to sort out people without the extra hassle of having their vehicles smashed up.

    With the quality of the photos it shouldn’t be hard to identify the culprits.

  • tigg replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 9 months, 2 weeks ago

    Just chatting about this with my 10-year-old, he reckons the culprits in all these and similar videos should be arrested and held in solitary ( no tv radio etc) from now until just after the final.

  • I thought we only smashed things up when we lost or were upset about something. It seems it’s also an expression of joy.


    It would be great to use the ‘power of social media ‘ to find some of these individuals and prosecute them!

  • tigg replied to the topic World Cup 2018 in the forum General Banter 9 months, 3 weeks ago

    Unusual for all those sides to be poor at the same time- and they were poor, none of the results are a shock when current form taken into account.

    Brazil, France, Uruguay and Belgium all still in though. But all in the other half of the draw. Losing to Belgium looking like a very good move now…

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