• hannnna replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 6 days, 6 hours ago

    Football caused the problem (well alcohol really) but football is sorting the problem. Millwall has raised over £5k to help pay for the ambulance. If the insurance pays out then the ambulance service keep the money as a donation regardless. Millwall are/were one of the most violent supporters mob in the country. Opposing fans have to get there via train and train only and walk through a protective cage to get into the ground. They aren’t as bad as they used to be though. Then when you had the guy running around stabbing people at London Bridge it was a Millwall supporter who said not in my town and took him on resulting in numerous injuries to himself but he protected a whole load more people from harm.

    Sport and alcohol bring out the worst in everyone.

  • I think that it’s incredibly sad that these few morons are spoiling things for the majority but I also believe that these aren’t incidents isolated to football. Unfortunately this kind of thing happens every weekend across British towns and it is being highlighted more because of the World Cup which just gives these clueless yobs an excuse.

    They sicken me because this should be something for the nation to enjoy. Many of the young men on the England Team have worked extremely hard to perfect their talent. They are not kids that have had everything handed to them on a plate and I think it’s great for some children to see them and think that they could be the next big thing. Anyone can be a footballer, no matter what your race, religion or background and surely in a world where…[Read more]

  • Fi replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week ago

    Perhaps football brings out the worst in a very, very small minority, but most people seem to be able to watch and enjoy it without doing any damage to anyone. Millions of people watched the match on Saturday (official BBC figures show almost 20 million viewers, but obviously that doesn’t account for those who had viewing parties or went to pubs/ big screens to watch it. The real figure is likely much higher), so to simply say “football brings out the worst in people” is a huge generalization and completely untrue. I hate the fact people are focusing on the actions of a few stupid individuals. I watched the match with a group of friends from work and there were four small children in the group. A good time was had by all and the worst damage done was a few crisps dropped on the…[Read more]

  • beckyE replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    I read on FB that they actually damaged the car so badly they wrote it off. What is wrong with people, the NHS are struggling with resources enough, now a car that could potentially save someones life is gone. I hope they get fined!

    We actually also had an interesting debate at work, a domestic abuse charity has said they dread these sorts of competitions as statistics show there is always a rise in domestic violence at these times.

  • Sammy replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    I do hope these England ‘fans’ are sent to jail. This will give their idiot mates another opportunity to chant, ‘It’s Coming Home’ in a few months time.

  • SoccerGal replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    If it’s tribalism brought about by football, then isn’t if fair to say that ‘football culture’ is essentially to blame?

    Very interesting question. Not being a footie sort of person, I had no idea until I researched it just now that for years football hooliganism has been known as the “English Disease”. How mortifying.

    But no, I’m not sure it’s either specifically English or related to football. In 12th-century France, for example, (as well as England), the tournaments held by the ruling aristocracy were organized riots involving thousands of men spread over many miles of countryside. Hundreds died or were injured and the surrounding area was trashed during the event by these state-sponsored hooligans. As well as being regarded as vital training for warfare it was considered a…[Read more]

  • skipper replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    If it’s tribalism brought about by football, then isn’t if fair to say that ‘football culture’ is essentially to blame?

  • connie replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    football brings out the absolute worst in people

    More a sad indictment of the herd mentality of crowds. If people weren’t so sheep-like, en masse, then 90% of that crowd would have acted on their natural inclination and shouted those idiots down from the vehicle.

  • tigg replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    It’s not the football, it’s the tribalism. Football (or any pack culture) gives halfwits anonymity, with a crowd to hide in, and it gives them an excuse to indulge in things they’d never dream of doing alone.

  • skipper replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    Just send them the bill for the damaged vehicle.

    For some people, football brings out the best for others football brings out the absolute worst in people.

  • cat replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    Nice, Sounds like your son has a good creative concept of justice. My personal idea would be to include in their punishment a few night shifts with an ambulance crew picking up drunks around christmas time to show them really how hard it is for the NHS to sort out people without the extra hassle of having their vehicles smashed up.

    With the quality of the photos it shouldn’t be hard to identify the culprits.

  • tigg replied to the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    Just chatting about this with my 10-year-old, he reckons the culprits in all these and similar videos should be arrested and held in solitary ( no tv radio etc) from now until just after the final.

  • sar started the topic Smashing things up in the forum General Banter 1 week, 1 day ago

    I thought we only smashed things up when we lost or were upset about something. It seems it’s also an expression of joy.

    https://news.sky.com/story/london-ambulance-damaged-as-england-fans-celebrate-world-cup-quarter-final-win-11429810

    It would be great to use the ‘power of social media ‘ to find some of these individuals and prosecute them!

  • tigg replied to the topic World Cup 2018 in the forum General Banter 2 weeks, 1 day ago

    Unusual for all those sides to be poor at the same time- and they were poor, none of the results are a shock when current form taken into account.

    Brazil, France, Uruguay and Belgium all still in though. But all in the other half of the draw. Losing to Belgium looking like a very good move now…

  • sophie replied to the topic World Cup 2018 in the forum General Banter 2 weeks, 1 day ago

    Ive never known the quarterfinals minus Germany, Italy, Argentina, Holland, Spain or Portugal. Surely England should win the world cup this year?

  • You really don’t have to spend a lot of money. When I had metatarsalgia it was caused by overpronation when I walk which was putting an unnatural amount of load on the balls of my feet when I walked or ran. What helped me was wearing some orthopedic insoles that corrected overpronation. Within around 2 weeks my ball of foot pain was all gone. I didn’t spend that much money I just picked up a £9.99 pair of arch support online.

  • bosworth replied to the topic World Cup 2018 in the forum General Banter 2 weeks, 4 days ago

    Exactly! This was always about prolonging England’s stay in Russia, and Southgate has done just that with this result.

    Now England will get knocked out next Tuesday instead of Monday. Mission accomplished.

  • sar replied to the topic World Cup 2018 in the forum General Banter 2 weeks, 4 days ago

    The only hazard with Columbia is being injured. They play full contact hope the ref is distracted football, plus the risk of players being drawn into a scuffle and being banned from later games.

  • tigg replied to the topic World Cup 2018 in the forum General Banter 2 weeks, 4 days ago

    It was a nothing game. Why risk bookings or injuries.

    no side wants to lose but there was no real advantage to winning. It was a chance for squad players to make a case and they didn’t. I don’t buy the momentum argument as it was a different team out there.

    it all starts again now. Columbia is a decent team but plays well and we will beat them especially without James if he’s out.

  • tigg replied to the topic World Cup 2018 in the forum General Banter 2 weeks, 4 days ago

    Its partly our national obsession with the underdog and being jolly good sports.

    I heard on the radio that in German schools sport is taught that winning is all that matters at all costs whereas we know that here we have a thing about the taking part, best efforts and everyone’s a winner etc. which is a bit rubbish but deeply ingrained in the culture.

    I’m generalising of course, but you get my drift.

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